Saturday, August 9, 2014

Open Comment Thread for Potential Rule Change - Larger Roster Sizes

Suggested to me this year:

"How about adding 5 more minor league spots.  These extra spots will help teams that are low in the standings to build a stronger farm system and also help teams that know their prospects well.  The catch though would be that once a team assigns a minor leaguer to one of these 5 special spots, they CANNOT be moved to until the end of the season (September call ups)."

Your thoughts?
I'm personally in favor of maintaining the 40-man roster - largely to keep more players in the pool - one of the "constraints" in BWB is roster size and a choice in the late season to keep a prospect or cut him loose to make room for an injury replacement is a big decision.

16 comments:

Roland Dupont said...

There are not enough good prospects to fill 12 minor league roster spots - increasing to 17 will not help the weak teams. It would make more sense to increase the over-250 roster size by a couple positions since teams having a large number of injured players are now hampered by having unusable players as backups or being forced to cut injured players in order to get usuable replacements.

Jay Snyder said...

I agree with Roland on the fact that having 12 minor league roster spots would not be beneficial. But what about creating two 5-week "Disable List" spots? These spots would be helpful for players with 4-6 week type injuries (pulled muscles, simple broken bones, etc.). Most teams can cover for a 1-2 week injury and we already have the year-long IR for major injuries.

A player on the DL would be treated just like the ones on the IR when it comes to roster space, trades, etc. Once the player's 5-weeks are done, he is automatically reinstated to the roster. Maybe we limit an individual player to being placed on the 5-week DL once per season (to avoid stashing).

Jay Snyder said...

Sorry, should have said I don't think the 17 minor league roster spots would be beneficial, not 12.

Christian Zaccaro said...

I agree as well that adding 5 minor league spots won't help the weaker teams. They still have to cut down to 28 at the end of the year anyways. I like the idea of adding a couple roster spots for DL-eligible players. It seems like injuries have increased substantially in the past few years. Maybe this is due to weening steroids out of the game...maybe not...that is a conversation for another day. I read a stat that 50% of all starting pitchers will end up on the DL at one time or another during the season. That stat alone makes me think that a DL spot or 2 on the roster is necessary.

Mike Lehman said...

why not have a 15 games disabled list like the pros where up to 2 players could be placed in addition to the one season ending option we have now. I also like Roland's idea of bumping up 250 salaries by 2 slots

Phil Dang said...

I like the idea of extra DL slots. I think you should add 2 2-week slots for 15-day DL guys and 1 10-week slot for a 60-day DL guy (or guys with oblique injuries...ugh).

Roland Dupont said...

There's another issue with a disabled list - whether the players on the list count against the 40-man roster limit. In MLB players on the 15-day list do count against the 40-man limit but players on the 60-day limit do not. I'd rather see an open disabled list where players on the list do not count against the 40-man limit but players must be moved back to the 40-man roster the week after they become active again in MLB. There would also have to be a rule that players could not be moved to the disabled list unless thay are on the MLB disabled list.

Leif J said...

I agree with most of the comments here. To me the bigger issue is dealing with injuries on your "major league" roster. So some type of DL designation that stays within the spirit of the 40 man roster (maybe add 2 spots strictly for DL or even make 2 M spots into M/DL or T spots) so you have more flexibilty for real injuries.

AC said...

THIS is the key phrase that would help the lesser teams: The catch though would be that once a team assigns a minor leaguer to one of these 5 special spots, they CANNOT be moved to until the end of the season (September call ups)."


It allows them to build like real bad teams in MLB, since normally each year the keeper number is 28.


These 5 players would be exempt from that.


Wouldn't all of us want to be able to keep some players you "discovered" 2-3 years ago finally reach the majors?

jason said...

If anything 1 extra spot for DL would be it. Alternatively an extra Pitcher (Spot Starter) would be nice since there have been so many injuries (and missed starts for other reason).

I like the 40 man max, so the extra pitcher spot would have to reduce the number of minor slots by 1.

The real issue IMO is the what I call the darren ruf issue. Prospects that are over 250 so can't be in the minors but are actually in the minors or only play very sparingly in the majors, but are guys who you want to take the risk on because they are in a good situation for next year or whatever.

But I LIKE the fact you only get 5 backup hitters to cover your guys (plus the 2 taxi spots) because it actuall ymakes you build a roster and make tough decisions.

jason said...

The BIGGEST problem with having an actual DL spot is what to do if the owner doesn't take him off when he actually comes off the DL? I certainly don't like the idea of an owner keeping a player on the dl after he is healthy, but also don't want to penalize someone who missed a guy coming off because he was on vacation or it happened the day before trans were due or whatever reason. It can certainly be tough to keep up with if you have a bunch of different teams, especially with guys who go on and off the DL all year long.

John Stroba said...

I would love to see a DL list increase. The thing to do though is make it so it counts against the 40 man.

That would eliminate the idea of having an extra guy on the roster and of any sort of grace period. It still forces teams to that get heavily injured to make tough choices BUT it allows them to keep a player instead of forcing him to cut the player or get a lot of BWB pitchers as well.

I would also like to see another pitcher slot added and would not mind seeing it come at the expense of a minor league slot.

Sherm said...

I'm going to chime in and support the addition of one or two dedicated DL spots for players officially DLed. In the weekly transaction update immediately after the player has been activated by his MLB team, he's added to your team like a FA pickup and you have an illegal lineup until you slot that player in somewhere.

Unknown said...

I am in favor of keeping the 40-man roster as is.

Kevin said...

I think an additional 2 spot start slots would balance things out. It's often annoying to figure out how to shuffle injured pitchers in and out of the rotation, and an additional spot starter spot or two should help. Let's face it, we need about 9 starting pitchers these days it seems. I'm usually in favor of seeing owners forced to drop good players, but at a certain point, the rotation turns into a carousel of flyers. Sure, it's fun to find gems that way, but a little team identity would be nice in a dynasty format.

jason said...

Kevin, I would much rather have an extra Taxi spot that is for a pitcher only, than be required to field 2 more Starting pitchers. I shouldn't be punished for drafting guys that are healthy all season and I certainly don't want to waste either money on someone who I don't plan on using at all as I would never plan on using SS3 or SS4.

Either way, I certainly don't want to increase roster size past the 40+1 that we already have.